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[agile-testing] Re: Continuous Deployment
--- In agile-testing@yahoogroups.com, "seanalexaoife" <coyle.james@...> wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> question for my esteemed colleagues:
>
> Continuous deployment / continuous delivery is a hot topic these days.
>And one area I'm particularly interested in is 'self-testing software' ...
>
Hello James -
I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but you might want to look into exploratory test automation (Kaner/Hoffman) or Model Based Testing (Harry Robinson) -- those are two techniques that create a model of how the software should operate, send random input into the system, into the model, and look to see what's different.
Here's one website on the topic:
http://www.geocities.com/model_based_testing/
Another question that occurs to me, that I probably should have said first, is something like "... and why do you ask?"
:-)
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Re: [agile-testing] Continuous Deployment
Interesting Information.
Besides the remaining useful replies, you might find my write-up of
Kent Beck's talk on Software G-Forces inspiring. He speaks about what
teams do when they get from quarterly releaes down to several releases
per day. Here is a pointer:
http://www.shino.de/2010/11/04/software-g-forces-the-effects-of-acceleration/
Best
Markus> ------------------------------------
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:58, seanalexaoife <coyle.james@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> question for my esteemed colleagues:
>
> Continuous deployment / continuous delivery is a hot topic these days. And one area I'm particularly interested in is 'self-testing software'.
>
> What are people's opinions on what is meant by 'self-testing software'? What does this look like? Is it unit testing by another name? Or is it deeper than that? Does it include the automation of black box tests? And is this now done by the developers? (I'm in a traditional developer / tester agile'ish team).
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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Re: [agile-testing] Continuous Deployment
Besides the remaining useful replies, you might find my write-up of
Kent Beck's talk on Software G-Forces inspiring. He speaks about what
teams do when they get from quarterly releaes down to several releases
per day. Here is a pointer:
http://www.shino.de/2010/11/04/software-g-forces-the-effects-of-acceleration/
Best
Markus
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:58, seanalexaoife <coyle.james@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> question for my esteemed colleagues:
>
> Continuous deployment / continuous delivery is a hot topic these days. And one area I'm particularly interested in is 'self-testing software'.
>
> What are people's opinions on what is meant by 'self-testing software'? What does this look like? Is it unit testing by another name? Or is it deeper than that? Does it include the automation of black box tests? And is this now done by the developers? (I'm in a traditional developer / tester agile'ish team).
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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[agile-testing] Re: Continuous Deployment
Here's one link ... http://martinfowler.com/articles/continuousIntegration.html
Mentioned self testing code (not software as I originally stated)
--- In agile-testing@yahoogroups.com, "gishu_pillai" <gishu.pillai@...> wrote:
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> Where did you find this term? Links?
>
> AFAIK someone has to test software. I've heard of "self-checking" which is 'tests that can exercise a path and verify the result without manual assistance'. Self-testing seems to indicate some sort of AI :)
>
> --- In agile-testing@yahoogroups.com, "seanalexaoife" <coyle.james@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > question for my esteemed colleagues:
> >
> > Continuous deployment / continuous delivery is a hot topic these days. And one area I'm particularly interested in is 'self-testing software'.
> >
> > What are people's opinions on what is meant by 'self-testing software'? What does this look like? Is it unit testing by another name? Or is it deeper than that? Does it include the automation of black box tests? And is this now done by the developers? (I'm in a traditional developer / tester agile'ish team).
> >
> > Thanks
> >
>
Posted by V.Senthil kumar 0 comments
Re: [agile-testing] Re: Continuous Deployment
Hi,
I think he asked about 'self-testing software', not continuous delivery.
The term 'self-testing software' was also widely used in the context of Design by Contract (in a nutshell: explicitly defining and automatically checking preconditions, postconditions and invariants of calls); not sure if it's still the same thing.
regards,
H
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex alternatives
The problem isn't even that large companies are in bed with Microsoft (that is a problem), but it's that they have many many existing legacy enterprise apps that only work or have only been tested to work in IE, and those systems need to be supported and in place for years to come.
Jason Merrill
Instructional Technology Architect IIBank of America Global Learning
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Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 9:20 AM
Good luck on convincing IT departments in large corporations who are generally Microsoft shops.
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Guy Morton <guy@...> wrote:
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> A thought on cross-browser hell…
>
> If every web developer in the world today decided to drop support for IE, everyone would go get Chrome or Firefox.
>
> This would be a win-win, as they would get a better browser, and we would get a better development environment.
>
> Who's with me?
>
> Guy
>
>
> On 16/01/2012, at 6:31 AM, Ron G wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Valdhor:
> >
> > You are right about that. That is precisely why we went with Flex originally (it insulated us from X-Browser issues). But, since we can't count on that lasting, and even Adobe is telling developers to plan on moving to HTML5, it seems like they're pushing us back into x-browser hell.
> >
> > I didn't want to go there, which is why we chose ZKoss. Yes, there is still going to be HTML/JS/CSS ultimately used, but it's how much. Even Flex SWFs are wrapped in HTML and JS when deployed. So, it's not that I'm against using any amount of HTML/JS; it's how little can I get away with to avoid these issues.
> >
> > Even with HTML5 libraries, such as the much touted jQuery, is, to a large degree, an insulator against x-browser issues. If you read the actual jQuery code, it deals with those issues for you.
> >
> > Now, ZK has a ZK Client JS library, which includes jQuery, that is designed to be a communicator mechanism between the client and the bulk of app logic that resides on the server. So, your normal editing and data manipulation that you might write in JS in a full blown HTML5 app is actually stored as Java on the server, and executed as needed per the EDA (event driven architecture). This type of JS is typically what breaks the page on different browsers and versions thereof. By limiting the amount of client-side JS, as does a jQuery type library, yes, you have some exposure to potential x-browser issues, but not as much as a HTML5 app that does everything on the client. And, when there are issues, they can be resolved in the ZK Client library as a patch/fix.
> >
> > So, now it seems to me that developers have several choices. Stick with Flex and you won't break the browser; you just won't be able to have your app viewed by millions on iOS products. If that seems like a better solution that minimal exposure to x-browser issues by using ZK or some other technology, well, that's certainly a choice each company has to make.
> >
> > Ron
> >
> > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "valdhor" <valdhorlists@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On a side note, I like the look of ZKoss. I don't know if there are cross browser issues with it seeing as we use older versions of browsers. One of the great features of Flex is we don't have to bother coding for compatibility between different browsers and versions. When IT deployed IE7, Flex applications worked just as they had before.
> > >
> > > Anyway, just my 2c from the enterprise perspective.
> > >
> >
> >
>
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