Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

Monday, December 19, 2011

 

On 19/12/2011 17:58, John McCormack wrote:



The general consensus is that 

a. People hate Flash. ( dont really know why!!! after reading all the HTML 5 vs Flash articles... )  / Developers hate javascript ( atleast the people who like the OOP paradigm! ).
b. Developers love AS3. ( Its the next best thing to chocolate! ) / People love nice UI.


Maybe people hate the things we create with Flash, such as heavyweight advertisements you can't easily stop - but that's the programmers fault.

Personally, I am interested in educational applications, so AS3 is great: very powerful with amazing potential. Just look at what Away3D manage to do: http://away3d.com/showcase/

LOL, looks beautiful, runs like a dog on my laptop. As you might guess, my laptop is not a current speed machine.

Paul


Isn't AIR is the obvious choice, and not Flash, when you want avoid browser multiplicity?

John








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Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

 



The general consensus is that 

a. People hate Flash. ( dont really know why!!! after reading all the HTML 5 vs Flash articles... )  / Developers hate javascript ( atleast the people who like the OOP paradigm! ).
b. Developers love AS3. ( Its the next best thing to chocolate! ) / People love nice UI.


Maybe people hate the things we create with Flash, such as heavyweight advertisements you can't easily stop - but that's the programmers fault.

Personally, I am interested in educational applications, so AS3 is great: very powerful with amazing potential. Just look at what Away3D manage to do: http://away3d.com/showcase/

Isn't AIR is the obvious choice, and not Flash, when you want avoid browser multiplicity?

John







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Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

 

Right the key point is maintain the AS3/Flex development platform and export to JS. Nobody will change backwards to program JS if you taste AS3 ;)

2011/12/19 ganaraj p r <ganarajpr@gmail.com>
 

The general consensus is that 


a. People hate Flash. ( dont really know why!!! after reading all the HTML 5 vs Flash articles... )  / Developers hate javascript ( atleast the people who like the OOP paradigm! ).
b. Developers love AS3. ( Its the next best thing to chocolate! ) / People love nice UI.

The holy grail is to create something that "doesnt require flash" but can be "programmed with as3" or something similiar and runs on a browser "without any plugin".




On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Rogerio Gonzalez <rogerio.gonzalez@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Hello to you all!

Removing Flash Player from the picture, require use a client side technology available in most devices.

HTML5 will require, at least, javascript. Since 99 I never really trust javascript because the cross-browser compatibility.
Anyone care to illustrate to me what change since then?
Do browsers in other devices really stick with "one version" of javascript?
If between browsers, under windows, we don´t got a javascript running without a hole bunch of workarounds, what is the difference for others devices?

You don´t wanna flash? I can understand that. But you will need something real to get the juice. You will need RIA.

JavaFX can be an option. Silverlight already is, once the win8 got to devices. But none of then will work on iOS. Probably only silverlight will work on win8/metro ( 'will not run plugins... a side the ones from microsoft' ).

I will stick with flash/flex for the time being and still waiting on the "next best thing" involving RIA and Web.

Regards,

Rogério Gonzalez




On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:47 AM, ganaraj p r <ganarajpr@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Hmmm. I doubt that would be possible.


The problem has never been with compiling the code as such. Its about how the compiled code is finally "used". Since we are going to be replacing  / removing the Flash Player from the picture, whether we compile the code on the server end or compile the code on the client end it really doesnt matter. 

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Rick Winscot <rick.winscot@zyche.com> wrote:
 

Hmm… if Falcon is 10x faster than the previous compiler – could you incrementally feed it and have it emit to the browser? Kind of like a progressive download?


From: ganaraj p r <ganarajpr@gmail.com>
Reply-To: "flexcoders@yahoogroups.com" <flexcoders@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:17:54 +0000
To: "flexcoders@yahoogroups.com" <flexcoders@yahoogroups.com>

Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

 

All that adobe needs to do is, start attempting to replace the current JS with AS3. 

Currently AS3 is a compiled language and JS is an interpreted language. Now can adobe come up with an interpreter for as3?
 


On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Peter Ginneberge <p.ginneberge@telenet.be> wrote:
 

> I really don't want to take a step back when I was
> in fact hoping to be getting a new version of
> action script that moved the main language even
> further forward.
>

I feel the same way. I just dislike JS and going from ActionScript to JavaScript is a step back.. a big one.
If you know Java, you're in luck 'cos with GWT you can just write Java apps and they get compiled to JS (with html/css) and you
still get to use Maven/Spring/Hibernate and do all the OOP stuff and whatnot. You don't have to look at javascript at all, let alone
write a single line of it !
As I mentioned earlier, if FlashBuilder would do something similar, I'd be all over it.
And it can be done, haXe already does that.
http://haxe.org/


regards,
Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Williams" <glenn@tinylion.co.uk>
To: <flexcoders@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 6:45 PM
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] You are the product

> The samples are ok, but it's the actual langue I
> dislike.
>
>
>
> I just doesn't feel very complete to me.
>
>
>
> I really don't want to take a step back when I was
> in fact hoping to be getting a new version of
> action script that moved the main language even
> further forward.
>
>
>
> The whole situation just feels like a regression
> to me.
>
>
>
> From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Rick Winscot
> Sent: 18 December 2011 01:29
> To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product
>
>
>
>
>
> The charts? The dashboard? The app as a whole?
> Yes. I'd recommend looking into the ExtJS samples
> at Sencha.
>
>
>
> http://www.sencha.com/products/extjs/




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Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

 

The general consensus is that 


a. People hate Flash. ( dont really know why!!! after reading all the HTML 5 vs Flash articles... )  / Developers hate javascript ( atleast the people who like the OOP paradigm! ).
b. Developers love AS3. ( Its the next best thing to chocolate! ) / People love nice UI.

The holy grail is to create something that "doesnt require flash" but can be "programmed with as3" or something similiar and runs on a browser "without any plugin".




On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Rogerio Gonzalez <rogerio.gonzalez@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Hello to you all!

Removing Flash Player from the picture, require use a client side technology available in most devices.

HTML5 will require, at least, javascript. Since 99 I never really trust javascript because the cross-browser compatibility.
Anyone care to illustrate to me what change since then?
Do browsers in other devices really stick with "one version" of javascript?
If between browsers, under windows, we don´t got a javascript running without a hole bunch of workarounds, what is the difference for others devices?

You don´t wanna flash? I can understand that. But you will need something real to get the juice. You will need RIA.

JavaFX can be an option. Silverlight already is, once the win8 got to devices. But none of then will work on iOS. Probably only silverlight will work on win8/metro ( 'will not run plugins... a side the ones from microsoft' ).

I will stick with flash/flex for the time being and still waiting on the "next best thing" involving RIA and Web.

Regards,

Rogério Gonzalez




On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:47 AM, ganaraj p r <ganarajpr@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Hmmm. I doubt that would be possible.


The problem has never been with compiling the code as such. Its about how the compiled code is finally "used". Since we are going to be replacing  / removing the Flash Player from the picture, whether we compile the code on the server end or compile the code on the client end it really doesnt matter. 

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Rick Winscot <rick.winscot@zyche.com> wrote:
 

Hmm… if Falcon is 10x faster than the previous compiler – could you incrementally feed it and have it emit to the browser? Kind of like a progressive download?


From: ganaraj p r <ganarajpr@gmail.com>
Reply-To: "flexcoders@yahoogroups.com" <flexcoders@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:17:54 +0000
To: "flexcoders@yahoogroups.com" <flexcoders@yahoogroups.com>

Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

 

All that adobe needs to do is, start attempting to replace the current JS with AS3. 

Currently AS3 is a compiled language and JS is an interpreted language. Now can adobe come up with an interpreter for as3?
 


On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Peter Ginneberge <p.ginneberge@telenet.be> wrote:
 

> I really don't want to take a step back when I was
> in fact hoping to be getting a new version of
> action script that moved the main language even
> further forward.
>

I feel the same way. I just dislike JS and going from ActionScript to JavaScript is a step back.. a big one.
If you know Java, you're in luck 'cos with GWT you can just write Java apps and they get compiled to JS (with html/css) and you
still get to use Maven/Spring/Hibernate and do all the OOP stuff and whatnot. You don't have to look at javascript at all, let alone
write a single line of it !
As I mentioned earlier, if FlashBuilder would do something similar, I'd be all over it.
And it can be done, haXe already does that.
http://haxe.org/


regards,
Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Williams" <glenn@tinylion.co.uk>
To: <flexcoders@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 6:45 PM
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] You are the product

> The samples are ok, but it's the actual langue I
> dislike.
>
>
>
> I just doesn't feel very complete to me.
>
>
>
> I really don't want to take a step back when I was
> in fact hoping to be getting a new version of
> action script that moved the main language even
> further forward.
>
>
>
> The whole situation just feels like a regression
> to me.
>
>
>
> From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Rick Winscot
> Sent: 18 December 2011 01:29
> To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product
>
>
>
>
>
> The charts? The dashboard? The app as a whole?
> Yes. I'd recommend looking into the ExtJS samples
> at Sencha.
>
>
>
> http://www.sencha.com/products/extjs/




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RE: [flexcoders] Fill pdf form with Flex

 

I wrote a Flex app that shows a dataGrid with SQL data via ColdFusion.

 

The end user clicks on a line item in the dataGrid and a little ColdFusion app bundles the selected data into a little XML file… launches… and hydrates the pdf.

 

The blank pdf form was created using Adobe’s LiveCycle Designer (bundled with Acrobat Pro) .

 

--Bill

 

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of isa_loyer
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:07 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Fill pdf form with Flex

 

 

Hi,

I'd like to fill a pdf form with flex.
Data are on my air application and I want to use those to fill a pdf file store on my computer.
Do you have an idea to do that?

thanks

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[flexcoders] Fill pdf form with Flex

 

Hi,

I'd like to fill a pdf form with flex.
Data are on my air application and I want to use those to fill a pdf file store on my computer.
Do you have an idea to do that?

thanks

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Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

 

Hello to you all!

Removing Flash Player from the picture, require use a client side technology available in most devices.

HTML5 will require, at least, javascript. Since 99 I never really trust javascript because the cross-browser compatibility.
Anyone care to illustrate to me what change since then?
Do browsers in other devices really stick with "one version" of javascript?
If between browsers, under windows, we don´t got a javascript running without a hole bunch of workarounds, what is the difference for others devices?

You don´t wanna flash? I can understand that. But you will need something real to get the juice. You will need RIA.

JavaFX can be an option. Silverlight already is, once the win8 got to devices. But none of then will work on iOS. Probably only silverlight will work on win8/metro ( 'will not run plugins... a side the ones from microsoft' ).

I will stick with flash/flex for the time being and still waiting on the "next best thing" involving RIA and Web.

Regards,

Rogério Gonzalez


On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:47 AM, ganaraj p r <ganarajpr@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Hmmm. I doubt that would be possible.


The problem has never been with compiling the code as such. Its about how the compiled code is finally "used". Since we are going to be replacing  / removing the Flash Player from the picture, whether we compile the code on the server end or compile the code on the client end it really doesnt matter. 

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Rick Winscot <rick.winscot@zyche.com> wrote:
 

Hmm… if Falcon is 10x faster than the previous compiler – could you incrementally feed it and have it emit to the browser? Kind of like a progressive download?


From: ganaraj p r <ganarajpr@gmail.com>
Reply-To: "flexcoders@yahoogroups.com" <flexcoders@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:17:54 +0000
To: "flexcoders@yahoogroups.com" <flexcoders@yahoogroups.com>

Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

 

All that adobe needs to do is, start attempting to replace the current JS with AS3. 

Currently AS3 is a compiled language and JS is an interpreted language. Now can adobe come up with an interpreter for as3?
 


On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Peter Ginneberge <p.ginneberge@telenet.be> wrote:
 

> I really don't want to take a step back when I was
> in fact hoping to be getting a new version of
> action script that moved the main language even
> further forward.
>

I feel the same way. I just dislike JS and going from ActionScript to JavaScript is a step back.. a big one.
If you know Java, you're in luck 'cos with GWT you can just write Java apps and they get compiled to JS (with html/css) and you
still get to use Maven/Spring/Hibernate and do all the OOP stuff and whatnot. You don't have to look at javascript at all, let alone
write a single line of it !
As I mentioned earlier, if FlashBuilder would do something similar, I'd be all over it.
And it can be done, haXe already does that.
http://haxe.org/


regards,
Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Williams" <glenn@tinylion.co.uk>
To: <flexcoders@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 6:45 PM
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] You are the product

> The samples are ok, but it's the actual langue I
> dislike.
>
>
>
> I just doesn't feel very complete to me.
>
>
>
> I really don't want to take a step back when I was
> in fact hoping to be getting a new version of
> action script that moved the main language even
> further forward.
>
>
>
> The whole situation just feels like a regression
> to me.
>
>
>
> From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Rick Winscot
> Sent: 18 December 2011 01:29
> To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product
>
>
>
>
>
> The charts? The dashboard? The app as a whole?
> Yes. I'd recommend looking into the ExtJS samples
> at Sencha.
>
>
>
> http://www.sencha.com/products/extjs/




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